![]() So in light of all those questions that have spilled out, we’ll take quite a while to cover them. And we’ll probably discuss what true spirituality might be in the course of this interview. What Is Enlightenment? And what is ignorance, which is the word ignorance is usually taken as the opposite of Enlightenment? What are sanity and insanity? Do they have an objective reality? Or to some extent? Are they just societal norms? Are Enlightenment and insanity? mutually exclusive? What about Crazy Wisdom teachers? Are they really wise or just crazy? Can spiritual experiences and practices make you crazy? If improperly understood and practiced? And are all paranormal experiences spiritual? Or in other words, if is any ill weird thing that happens to you really spiritual? Or could it actually be pathological or some are undesirable in some way, and not really moving you in the direction of what we might define as true spirituality. It’ll kind of give us a outline of what we might discuss in this interview. And even just reading the Title I, you know, I, it evoked some questions in me, which I’ll just read out for fun. The subtitle is the psychiatrist guide for mastering paranormal and spiritual experience. I’ve referred to it a number of times in previous interviews, actually, without even having begun to read the book just because I think the title tell so much. ![]() So you’ve written a book called, are you getting enlightened or losing your mind, and I love the title. I mean, on the spiritual if you’re physically debilitated. So,ĭavid Gersten: right, and people’s priorities tend to be physical first. And it’s like two legs of a table or something, you pull either leg and the other can be moved. And I’m glad you added that because in my understanding, at least the spiritual can’t be divorced from the physical, the, you know, the spiritual, spiritual development has a physiological component. But I did struggle with that word for years. I’mĭavid Gersten: it’s a real holistic body, mind, spirit. It includes the spiritual, right, but it includes the physical very much with a specialty and amino acid therapy. ![]() Would that be a fair assessment, David?ĭavid Gersten: Close I refer to my work as integrative psychiatry, okay. And that perhaps something good is happening. David has learned to recognize the value in the experiences these people are having if they are indeed genuine experience spiritual experiences, and to sort of reassure them that everything’s actually okay. And in some cases, crises, which other psychiatrists might misdiagnosed as pathological and end up giving them drugs. And in other words, he’s as a spiritual aspirant himself, he has ended up attracting people who are having various kinds of spiritual awakenings. Having gotten to know David a little bit and having read much of his book I, if I had to describe him in a word, and I think he would agree, agree, David is a spiritual psychiatrist. Welcome, David.ĭavid Gersten: Thank you so much. My name is Rick Archer and my guest this week is David Gersten, MD. Rick Archer: Welcome to Buddha at the Gas Pump. If you would like to correct them please contact me. This rough draft generated by Otter.ai contains errors.
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